Redress Compliance provides S/4HANA migration licensing advice for ECC customers converting to S/4HANA on premise or RISE, working only for the buyer. We verify your ECC entitlements, model every conversion path, and negotiate the credits so you never pay twice for what you own. You pay a fixed fee, or 25 percent of what we save you.
S/4HANA Negotiations: The Discount Is Dead. The Tier Is the Deal.
SAP moved from ad hoc discounting to tier based pricing: the FUE band sets the rate. Negotiating the band edges, the user type mapping as the hidden discount, what remains genuinely negotiable, and protecting the tier at renewal.
You need S/4HANA migration licensing advice if you hold a significant ECC installed base, meaning named users, package engines, and a maintenance stream built over decades, and SAP has started pricing the move. The S/4HANA licensing model is different, and SAP’s conversion paths are built around its revenue and cloud targets, not around preserving your entitlement value.
It fits every stage of the decision: choosing between brownfield, greenfield, and selective transition, holding a conversion quote, or negotiating against a deadline. The earlier the entitlement baseline exists, the more of the conversion credit conversation you control, and our SAP licensing consultants can build it ahead of any quote.
Conversions destroy value when the new deal is priced from SAP’s picture of your estate instead of your own. Without independent analysis, the same six mistakes repeat:
Each one traces back to the same root. The engagement replaces SAP’s picture with a verified baseline before any commercial conversation.
The work runs four workstreams: verify the ECC entitlement, model every conversion path, benchmark SAP’s pricing, and negotiate to a plan. The entitlement baseline report lands within 10 business days of complete contract and measurement data, and the conversion analysis and benchmark within 10 business days after that.
| Deliverable | What it contains |
|---|---|
| Entitlement baseline report | The verified license position, the maintenance base, identified shelfware, and the entitlement value available for conversion. |
| Conversion analysis report | The conversion paths compared side by side, a recommended structure, target credit position, user and metric mapping, and the digital access recommendation. |
| Commercial benchmark and target sheet | Target prices, discount thresholds, walk away positions, and the levers available to reach them. |
| Negotiation playbook | Sequencing, fiscal calendar timing, framing of your position, and anticipated SAP tactics. |
| Proposal assessments and contract review | Written assessments of each SAP proposal round and a final contract review memo with recommended redlines before signature. |
The answer depends on your go live date and the run rate after credits expire, not on the headline discount. Neither deployment is cheaper by default; cloud and on premise each win in some cases, and year three is the real price.
Whatever you choose, the side letter at close should capture measurement carve outs, true up caps, transfer rights, and audit limitations. If RISE is on the table, our RISE with SAP advisory runs that negotiation.
Because SAP presents conversion options that favor its own revenue recognition and cloud targets. That is incentive, not malice, and the only counterweight is an independent baseline that proves what your estate is worth before the conversion prices it.
The analysis covers the decisions that move money: product versus contract conversion, shelfware dropped or converted, users mapped from real usage, and digital access settled inside the deal while you still hold leverage.
We carry no stake in the outcome beyond the result: no reseller agreements, no referral fees, and no implementation revenue behind the migration order. If phasing the commitment or holding part of the estate on ECC is the better answer, you hear it.
Published S/4HANA and migration outcomes include a 22 percent cut in total program license cost, a RISE migration 31 percent below list, and a 30 percent cut in annual SAP cost. Every figure below comes from a case study on this site.
A European retailer in twelve countries landed total S/4HANA program license cost 22 percent below SAP’s rolled forward migration quote, with the migration position negotiated against its ECC entitlement.
✓ Published case studyA German automotive group closed its RISE migration 31 percent below list and replaced SAP’s eighteen month timeline with a phased plan matched to its own capacity.
✓ Published case studyA FTSE 250 financial group retired its ECC estate, settled an indirect access finding of over twelve million euros at single digit millions, and cut annual SAP cost 30 percent.
✓ Published case studyA global manufacturer with 64,000 SAP users closed its first RISE renewal 30 percent below the opening proposal on a rebuilt commercial value.
Fredrik Filipsson, co founder and Group CEO, leads S/4HANA conversion work with Mietske van Ravesteijn, our SAP Commercial Lead, who covers RISE migration framing and S/4HANA renewal economics.
Fredrik held senior commercial roles at IBM and SAP after starting at Oracle in license management services, and co founded Redress Compliance in 2018. He advises enterprise buyers on SAP licensing, RISE, and S/4HANA commercial terms.
You choose a fixed fee, scoped to the conversion and agreed up front, or a success fee of 25 percent of what we save you on the conversion deal. On a success fee you keep 75 percent, and if we save nothing you pay nothing.
We never bill by the hour. Either way the fee covers all four workstreams, up to four advisory calls, and email support through the term.
On a migration, the key question is whether the advisor also earns from the implementation. Each option has strengths, and the table sets them out neutrally.
| Test | Redress Compliance | Big Four consultancy | SAP partner or reseller | In house team |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Independence | 100 percent buyer side: zero vendor affiliations, no reseller agreements, no referral fees | Independent of SAP sales; other units of the firm may hold SAP alliance or implementation work | Part of the SAP sales channel | Full |
| Conflicts of interest | None; the fee you pay is the only revenue | Worth checking before engaging | Earns margin or project revenue from the purchase that follows the migration | None, but internal deadlines can push toward settling early |
| SAP specific experience | Former SAP commercial staff and a file of SAP audits, indirect access claims, and RISE deals | Strong technical benches; SAP commercial depth varies by team | Deep product knowledge, seen from the sell side | Knows the estate best; sees SAP claims rarely |
| How fees work | Fixed fee agreed up front; 25 percent success fee option on negotiation work; never hourly | Usually day rates or time and materials | Often folded into license or project pricing | Staff time |
For a neutral checklist, read our guide on how to choose a software licensing advisor.
Four changes shape an S/4HANA conversion this year:
If a digital access claim is tied to the migration, see SAP indirect access defense; for an audit, SAP audit defense.
It is a fixed fee agreed up front, or a success fee of 25 percent of what we save you on the conversion deal. You keep 75 percent, and if we save nothing you pay nothing. We never bill by the hour.
The entitlement baseline lands within 10 business days of complete contract and measurement data, and the conversion analysis and benchmark within 10 business days after that. Negotiation support then follows your deal calendar.
Product conversion swaps individual ECC products for S/4HANA equivalents and keeps the rest of the contract; contract conversion replaces the whole agreement with a new S/4HANA contract. The right path depends on your shelfware, discounts, and maintenance base, which is why we model both with real numbers.
SAP applies a credit for existing entitlements against the new S/4HANA agreement. The credit SAP proposes is a starting position, not a rule: its size depends on how shelfware is treated, which entitlements are counted, and how the negotiation is run.
No. SAP is incentivized to attach RISE or cloud components to conversion deals, especially near deadlines. Any cloud element should be priced and justified separately, and our analysis covers the on premise versus cloud implications before you commit.
ECC mainstream maintenance ends on December 31, 2027, and SAP sells hard against that date. Extended maintenance to 2030 and third party support keep the timeline yours, so the deadline is real but the panic is optional.
Yes. We have zero vendor affiliations, no reseller agreements, and no referral fees, and we do not implement S/4HANA. We work alongside your system integrator on the buyer side of the commercial table.
All SAP contracts, order forms, and maintenance schedules, plus recent USMM and LAW measurements and user role data. If third party systems write into SAP, we also need the integration landscape to size digital access.
A verified baseline, every path modeled, credits maximized, and the contract negotiated from evidence. That is a migration that does not pay twice.
One letter a month. Negotiation moves, audit signals, and price book shifts.