On Demand Session  |  Negotiating the Big 50

Negotiating RISE with SAP

The full twenty minute session on negotiating RISE with SAP: what the subscription bundles, what you surrender to get it, why the 2027 cliff is really a staircase, and the six clauses that keep a RISE deal honest.

20:19 minutes11 chaptersDaniel, Senior Advisor and Claire, Expert AnalystFree, no registration

About this session

Two Redress Compliance advisors take the RISE with SAP decision apart in a single conversation. Daniel runs the negotiations, Claire runs the research desk, and the numbers build on the panel above them as they talk. It runs 20:19 and there is nothing to register for.

Moving to RISE surrenders your perpetual licenses and the twenty years of negotiated discounts, special terms and metric definitions attached to them, so leaving later means relicensing from scratch at today's prices. That makes it a one way door, and a one way door should be priced like one. The pressure to sign comes from the December 2027 date, but extended maintenance runs to the end of 2030 and a transition option reaches 2033, so the cliff is really a staircase with a published price on every step.

The session then goes to the two numbers that quietly set the price. Proposed user counts have run twenty two to thirty eight percent above what the customer's own transaction logs supported, and digital access landscapes have measured at two to four times the buyer's internal estimate. Both are fixed the same way, by measuring your own estate before the conversation starts rather than after the proposal lands.

Session agenda

Every line jumps the player to that point.

  • 0:00 Welcome, and what this session isWhy this is not a pitch, and the four questions the session answers.
  • 1:23 What RISE actually isThe four things inside the subscription, what the managed service does not cover, and what the July 2025 rename changed.
  • 4:16 What you surrenderPerpetual licenses, twenty years of discounts, and the negotiated position underneath them.
  • 6:30 The maintenance calendar2027, 2030 and 2033 are three priced steps, not one cliff. Plus the fourth path most shortlists leave out.
  • 8:20 What your conversion credit is worthFifty to seventy percent of residual value while an alternative exists, and how announcing destroys it.
  • 10:14 The user count, and why it is too highFUE categorisation, the 22 to 38 percent gap, and the light user who is not light.
  • 12:26 Digital access, the bill nobody budgetedTwo to four times the internal estimate, and how measuring first cuts the settlement.
  • 13:52 The audit that follows a noWhat prepared actually means, and why the audit room and the renewal room stay separate.
  • 15:37 Six clauses that keep the deal honestCaps, credit persistence, fixed ratios, digital access, exit portability and indexation.
  • 17:45 What to do on MondayFour moves in order, and the three people who belong in the room.
  • 19:25 The bottom lineThree sentences, and the two measurements worth more than everything else.

The model. Redress Compliance works on contingency. You negotiate with the vendor first. When you have gotten everything you can get, bring the deal to Redress and we take 25 percent of what we save you beyond your best number. Nothing saved, nothing paid. Talk to us.

Chapters

  • 0:00Welcome, and what this session is
  • 1:23What RISE actually is
  • 4:16What you surrender
  • 6:30The maintenance calendar
  • 8:20What your conversion credit is worth
  • 10:14The user count, and why it is too high
  • 12:26Digital access, the bill nobody budgeted
  • 13:52The audit that follows a no
  • 15:37Six clauses that keep the deal honest
  • 17:45What to do on Monday
  • 19:25The bottom line

More from the series

Browse all episodes →