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Negotiating with Adobe

A negotiation that rewards counting more than it rewards arguing. A fifteen minute session on the two programmes and where the crossover sits, the discount bands by seat count, the true up asymmetry that ratchets your baseline, and the deployment governance where the real money is.

16:24 minutes9 chaptersDaniel, Senior Advisor and Claire, Expert AnalystFree, no registration

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About this session

Adobe most often gets treated as a small negotiation and turns out not to be, because the per seat number feels modest and nobody escalates a creative tools renewal. Across a large organisation the seat count is bigger than anyone believes, the utilisation is worse than anyone believes, and the agreement structure makes both of those expensive.

The structural feature that shapes everything else is that the enterprise agreement bills you when deployment goes up and almost never credits you when it goes down. True up is charged; true down is rarely granted. So every seat that gets assigned becomes a permanent floor for the rest of the term, and your baseline ratchets. At renewal you are negotiating from the highest point your deployment ever reached rather than from where it currently sits, which turns an administrative decision into a multi year commitment made by somebody who has no idea they are making one.

That is why the deployment governance conversation is the commercial conversation. A meaningful proportion of assigned licences are not being used, and a further proportion sit on the full bundle for people who only ever open one or two applications. Adobe provides the usage report and most organisations have never run it. The session covers what to do with it, the three moves that make up a good renewal, and why the reclamation has to be finished before you negotiate rather than during.

Session agenda

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  • 0:00 Welcome, and what this session coversWhy a small negotiation turns out not to be.
  • 1:35 The two programmesThe level based route, the enterprise agreement, and the crossover near five hundred seats.
  • 4:13 What is achievableTwelve to forty percent across the seat bands, and what the first quote actually is.
  • 6:25 The true up asymmetryThe contract only moves one way, and your baseline ratchets.
  • 8:22 Deployment governanceUnused seats, over specified bundles, leavers, and the report nobody runs.
  • 11:03 The renewalRight size, cap the uplift, rebuild the product mix.
  • 13:24 TimingSix months, and it is mostly not the negotiation.
  • 14:54 The numbersFour to hold on to.
  • 15:29 The bottom lineThe discount bands you can look up. Your seat count you cannot.

The model. Redress Compliance works on contingency. You negotiate with the vendor first. When you have gotten everything you can get, bring the deal to Redress and we take 25 percent of what we save you beyond your best number. Nothing saved, nothing paid. Talk to us.

Chapters

  • 0:00Welcome, and what this session covers
  • 1:35The two programmes
  • 4:13What is achievable
  • 6:25The true up asymmetry
  • 8:22Deployment governance
  • 11:03The renewal
  • 13:24Timing
  • 14:54The numbers
  • 15:29The bottom line

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