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RISE with SAP, rejected.

A California technology manufacturer ran a thirty month RISE with SAP evaluation, rejected the migration, kept ECC on a fixed price extension, and closed a twenty percent total cost of ownership saving across the four year contract. This is the buyer side play book.

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The buyer side wins on RISE happen before the proposal lands, not at the signature line. The California manufacturer in this case built a fixed price ECC extension scenario eighteen months ahead of the renewal date and walked SAP through the alternative math line by line.

SAP opened with a RISE proposal at one hundred fifteen percent of the existing ECC support spend. The buyer closed an ECC extension at eighty percent of the original ECC support spend. The gap is a twenty percent TCO saving compounded over a four year contract.

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Key Takeaways

What a CFO needs to know in 90 seconds

  • RISE is one option. ECC extension, S/4HANA on premise, and third party support are the alternatives that hold price discipline.
  • The 2027 deadline is soft. SAP has confirmed ECC mainstream support through 2027 with extended support through 2030 and a fee paid window beyond.
  • Vendor urgency is a tell. A RISE push at renewal signals an inside the year quota target, not a buyer side migration need.
  • Fixed price extension works. Two of every three ECC estates can secure a fixed price extension with a credible alternative on the table.
  • Indirect access still bites. The DAAP conversion needs to be costed inside any RISE evaluation, not added as a surprise after signing.
  • Independent benchmarks unlock leverage. The buyer side bench mark is the lever that moves SAP from the opening price to the closing price.
  • Walking away is a strategy. The credible no, evidenced and timed, is the strongest commercial position any SAP buyer can carry.

Starting position

The customer is a publicly listed semiconductor manufacturer with global operations and a twelve hundred user SAP ECC footprint. The original SAP contract dated from 2014. Annual support ran at five point eight million US dollars on a forty three million US dollar license base.

The ECC footprint

  • Modules. Financials, Materials Management, Sales and Distribution, Production Planning, Quality Management, Plant Maintenance, Project System.
  • Users. Twelve hundred Professional users, four hundred Limited Professional, two thousand Employee.
  • Geography. US headquarters, design centers in Taiwan and Israel, manufacturing in China and Malaysia.
  • Integrations. Salesforce CRM, Manhattan WMS, Oracle data warehouse, custom MES.

The renewal context

The renewal window opened thirty months ahead of the contract expiry date. Procurement, finance, and IT leadership commissioned a Redress engagement at month minus twenty four. The engagement scoped a RISE evaluation, a stay on ECC scenario, and a S/4HANA on premise scenario.

The RISE push

SAP opened the conversation with a RISE with SAP private edition proposal. The proposal carried a Premium Plus subscription, a forty eight month commitment, and a three year price hold. The headline subscription value sat at six point seven million US dollars per year.

RISE opening offer

ElementSAP openingNotes
Subscription tierPremium PlusHighest commercial tier
Annual fee$6.7M115% of ECC support spend
Term48 monthsStandard RISE commitment
Migration credit$2.1MOne time, against year one fees
Indirect accessIncludedDAAP conversion required at signing
Price hold3 yearsFive percent uplift in year four

The vendor pressure points

  • 2027 deadline. SAP framed ECC end of mainstream support as a forcing function.
  • Migration credit decay. The two million dollar credit was timed against the quarter end.
  • Public stock. The price hold was offered as a one time concession.
  • Innovation gap. SAP positioned ECC as a frozen platform.

The buyer side counter

Redress built three alternative scenarios alongside the RISE proposal. The credible no needed a credible yes to something else. The board pack carried the ECC extension scenario, the S/4HANA on premise scenario, and the hybrid third party support scenario.

Scenarios prepared

  1. ECC extension. Fixed price ECC support through 2030 at eighty percent of current spend. Buyer driven RISE evaluation deferred to year three.
  2. S/4HANA on premise. License purchase, support uplift, no subscription model. Twelve month implementation, no cloud migration risk.
  3. Hybrid third party. Rimini Street ECC support at fifty percent of current spend. S/4HANA evaluation funded from the saving.

The credible no rule

SAP only moves when the buyer can show a credible alternative. The credible alternative needs to be costed, sequenced, and presented at board level. Half a scenario is no scenario.

In this engagement the third party support quote from Rimini Street was the unlock. SAP did not believe the buyer would walk to third party until the signed Rimini quote landed in the room.

Five negotiation moves used

  • Open the alternative early. ECC extension scenario tabled in month minus twenty four, before SAP opened RISE.
  • Anchor on TCO not subscription. Every comparison ran on four year TCO, not on annual fee.
  • Cost the DAAP separately. Indirect access conversion priced as a discrete line, not bundled into RISE.
  • Bring the third party quote. Rimini Street quote in writing, signed scoping document, board approval.
  • Walk away once. Procurement closed the SAP conversation for thirty days to test the urgency tell.

Line item result

SAP returned to the table with an ECC extension proposal at the close of the thirty day walk away. The extension covered ECC support through 2030 at eighty percent of the prior support spend, with a flexible RISE optionality clause for year three.

Final contract by line

Line itemOpening offerFinal contractChange
Annual SAP spend$6.7M (RISE)$4.64M (ECC ext)Down 31%
Term48 months48 monthsMatch
Four year TCO$26.8M$18.56MDown 31%
RISE optionalityMandatoryYear 3 electionBuyer side
DAAP scopeBundledDiscrete capBuyer side
Innovation budgetNone$3M migration fundSAP funded

Where the saving sits

The headline four year saving lands at eight point two million US dollars on TCO. The contract also carries an SAP funded three million dollar S/4HANA migration evaluation budget. The total buyer side value across the four year window is closer to twenty seven percent of the RISE opening.

SAP only believed we would walk when the Rimini Street quote landed on the table. The third party scenario was the lever. The ECC extension was the close. The four year TCO came in twenty percent below the opening offer with the migration budget paid by SAP.

Lessons for other buyers

The RISE rejection play book is repeatable. Other SAP customers running ECC at scale can use the same sequence with adjustments for industry, geography, and footprint.

Six lessons that travel

  • Open the alternative before SAP opens RISE. Lead the conversation, do not follow.
  • Build the board pack on TCO. Annual fees are a vendor frame, TCO is a buyer frame.
  • Cost the DAAP discretely. Indirect access conversion math is the second most expensive line in any RISE deal.
  • Bring the third party scenario. Rimini Street, Spinnaker Support, or Support Revolution. Pick one and price it.
  • Walk away once. The credible silence tells SAP the buyer is not bluffing.
  • Use independent benchmarks. Vendor quoted comparables are not benchmarks, they are sales tools.

What to do next

The seven step checklist below is the buyer side starting position for any SAP RISE rejection engagement.

  1. Map the renewal calendar. Open the SAP conversation at month minus twenty four, not month minus twelve.
  2. Inventory the ECC footprint. Modules, users, integrations, customizations.
  3. Price the ECC extension scenario. Eighty percent of current support, through 2030.
  4. Price the S/4HANA on premise scenario. License, support, implementation.
  5. Get the third party support quote. Rimini Street, Spinnaker, or Support Revolution. Signed scoping document.
  6. Cost the DAAP separately. Indirect access conversion math against current document volume.
  7. Build the board pack. Four year TCO across all four scenarios, with a recommended position.

Frequently asked questions

Is the 2027 SAP ECC deadline real?

SAP has committed mainstream support for ECC through end of 2027, with extended support available through 2030 and customer specific maintenance beyond. The 2027 date is a marketing tool, not a hard cliff. The ECC platform remains a viable production option through the end of the decade for any customer that chooses to run it.

What is the realistic discount on a RISE proposal?

RISE opening offers run at one hundred ten to one hundred twenty percent of existing ECC support spend. Closed deals land at ninety to one hundred percent of current spend in most cases, and at seventy to eighty percent when the buyer brings a credible third party support alternative. The lever is the alternative, not the RISE conversation itself.

Does Rimini Street support void the SAP relationship?

No. Customers can run Rimini Street support for ECC while maintaining a commercial SAP relationship for new product purchases. The SAP intellectual property remains licensed under the original contract. The shift is from SAP support fees to Rimini support fees, with the SAP license itself unchanged.

How does indirect access work inside a RISE deal?

RISE subscriptions bundle the SAP Digital Access Adoption Program conversion into the subscription scope. The buyer side discipline is to cost the DAAP conversion as a discrete line item rather than accept the bundled price. Document volumes need to be measured, projected, and capped in the contract.

What is the right team for a RISE evaluation?

The right team carries a procurement lead, a finance partner, an SAP technical owner, and an independent advisor. The independent advisor brings the buyer side benchmark, the third party support quote, and the board pack discipline. Vendor led evaluations rarely produce the twenty percent TCO saving the manufacturer in this article achieved.

How does Redress engage on RISE rejections?

Redress runs RISE rejection engagements as a focused twelve to eighteen month sprint, anchored on the renewal date. The work covers the scenario build, the third party quote, the DAAP costing, the board pack, the negotiation sequence, and the closing line item review. Always buyer side, never SAP paid.

How Redress engages on SAP

Redress runs SAP renewal engagements as part of the wider Vendor Shield subscription, the Renewal Program, the Benchmark Program, and the Software Spend Assessment. The team carries SAP commercial leadership in Mietske van Ravesteijn.

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SAP only believed we would walk when the Rimini Street quote landed on the table. The third party scenario was the lever. The ECC extension was the close. The four year TCO came in twenty percent below the opening offer with the migration budget paid by SAP.

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